This is a “spin off” from another thread / issue i had.
When spinning up a cluster with the default / dummy certs and default credentials, the security page in kibana does not allow you to “access” any of the useful bits like roles, rolemappsings… etc.
E.G. when you click the “thumbprint” button, you’re immediately logged out of kibana.
(note: there are SEVERAL missing icons; i have opened an issue about that here)